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| August 8, 2006, 01:08 | |
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Rhovanion
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Quoting Sandman: It seems Israel is allowed, by a UN resolution, to stay in Lebanon's land for the time being. Now is this ridiculous or what? America has been pro-Israel for a long time now and Bush keeps protecting them and making excuses for them. However, we will discuss this in a different thread, if anyone should have this desire. (For the sake of Sandman's net.dll topic) Bush sends weapons to Israel to help them bomb Libanese targets. Then he sends human help to Libanon to help the people being bombed. That's economic profit for the weapons selling And political profit for the help he sends. ____________ |
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| August 8, 2006, 01:42 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts 
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Israel invades a country with as 'direct cause' the hostage taking of a single soldier. Israel bombs away whole living blocks including plenty civilians. Israel 'apparantly deliberately' shoots United Nation observers. Israel sets of a fighting pause but breaks it little time after. The israelian military has taken control of the Israelian media. Alleged use of chemical weapons during the bombings of Libanon. Victims were all black as if they were burned but it only was a black layer on them, also they shrunk to half the size. ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| August 8, 2006, 01:51 | |
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Eckolin
Quite Whiskered 388 posts 
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That is to say they weren't very popular in that region to begin with...
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| August 8, 2006, 21:52 | |
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Rhovanion
Exterminated 666 posts |
can you imagine: 1) 3 people are kidnapped and murdered from France by a terrorist unit in the UK. 2) France declares war on the UK and bombs London killing 1000 people. Honestly, how insane does this sound? 
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| August 8, 2006, 22:24 | |
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Sandman
F3n!x0r 1194 posts 
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| August 9, 2006, 02:40 | |
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TheMI3
Starving Artist 520 posts 
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I've had this debate with my dad, and while we're both of the opinion that both Hasbilah and Israel should stfu and go home, he's pro-israel, while i'm anti-bullshit. He argues 'well hasbilah missle bombed israel, wtf do you think they should do?' It doesn't matter what they should do, what they are doing is essentially state sponsored terrorism, and I'm unsurprised that America's backing them. All they're doing is fighting an uphill struggle. A lot of Lebinese will probably join the anti-israel terrorist groups making it increasingly difficult. The definition of terrorism these days are small brown skinned men in turbans with 'stolen' Russian arms. It's just not cricket. ____________ This is my Blog. There are many like it, but this one is mine! (Now actual posts on it) http://www.chiefillustrator.com |
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| August 9, 2006, 03:41 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts
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Quote: Hasbilah and Israel should stfu and go home And then Israel should self-castrate. ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| August 9, 2006, 04:10 | |
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Sandman
F3n!x0r 1194 posts
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Quoting Rincewind: Quote: Hasbilah and Israel should stfu and go home And then Israel should self-castrate. Are you implying they have balls? ____________ BennuWiki Yes, my avatar has grey borders in IE (so get a decent browser) ROOFLEZ ROOFLEZ |
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| August 9, 2006, 04:43 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts
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Quote: Are you implying they have balls? Hell no, having guts doesn't mean you shoot your three year old brother with a rifle through the head because he got his hands on a kitchen knife. I was implying Israel is being aroused and extremely agressive. Castration will help. ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| August 11, 2006, 08:50 | |
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Mezzmer
Square-theorist 792 posts 
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ok sign this DICKWADS http://www.ceasefirecampaign.org/mo/en.html i've had two e-mails concerning this petition so far, unfortunately i can only sign it once. GIVE PEACE A CHANCE ____________ |
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| August 11, 2006, 10:51 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts 
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I know you'll probably think I'm batshit, but I am very pro-Israel on this whole thing. Israel is surrounded by people who hate thier very existance and would like nothing more than to wipe them out, the whole kidnapping thing is the catalyst that shot it all off. Israel are using it as an excuse to attack Hezbollah sure, but at the end of the day Israel are sick of the attacks and treats to thier country. It's a justified excuse. As for civilian death tolls in Lebanon, Israel has bent over backwards to stop civilian casualties, going as far as to warn everyone to evacuate what is essentially a warzone now. But people stay, and Hezbollah forces them into the line of fire using down right ridiculously awful tactics. Israel are being aggresive because they have to be, this is a huge threat. Imagine if someone started throwing rockets at Washington DC, then the shit would really hit the fan. It's no different in the middle east despite what you think. At the end of the day the only way for this thing to finish is frankly for Hezbollah to be crushed, because if Israel stopped fighting, do you think Hezbollah would stop thier hostilities? Hell no, it would probably drive them to ramp it up a little. Open your eyes, there's a lot more to this than a country overreacting. ____________ laffo |
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| August 11, 2006, 12:04 | |
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Sandman
F3n!x0r 1194 posts
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Quoting Ferret: there's a lot more to this than a country overreacting. Yeah there is, it's because Isreal wants the holy land. Back after the second world war many jews came to what's now called Israel, and bought land there. At some point, the state of Israel was constructed and other people already living there for generations were "temporarily moved" (wtf??). So those people who were forced to leave had refugee camps, which are now whole cities, because they were never allowed to return to their own land.Israel recently bombed such a refugee camp with the excuse "hezbollah could be there". They most probably were not, but even if they were, the land they bombed was not Israel's, they have no juristiction there. Quoting Ferret: going as far as to warn everyone to evacuate what is essentially a warzone now. How noble. They spread pamflets trying to terrify people into leaving so they can take the land. But first they bomb it, regardless of the people still there. It became a warzone because of Israel's bombings. I can't see how anyone can be pro-Israel. Must be some weird guiltfeeling left from the war or something (for older generation). ____________ BennuWiki Yes, my avatar has grey borders in IE (so get a decent browser) ROOFLEZ ROOFLEZ |
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| August 11, 2006, 12:08 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts
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I'ld love to know where you get the idea that Israel are attempting to take land. They have done no such thing at all throughout this whole thing. All they have been doing is attempting to quell what a terrorist organisation gone completely out of control.
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| August 11, 2006, 18:08 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts
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Rocketmen spread and hidden in a city - you simply don't crush such a thing by using pure force destroying everything you come through, living block after living block. More than thousand libanon civilians are killed now and 1.136.000 are homeless/on the run. That's one third of Libanon's population. Also Libanon's infrastructure is completely being wacked by Israel - sure hezbollah could've used it - but it's the biggest loss for all the libanon people, I can't see how that country is ever going to get back on the road again. And all these homeless people - don't you think they will hate Israel from now on? Israel is doing it to themselves. Israel obviously does not care about things outside Israel (human lives, communities, homes, libanon cities, libanon infrastructure, the international community or the UN). Israel is the extreme agressor in this picture, no matter what the conflict was about in the first place. Ruining a neighbour country to get some urban guerilla rocket men? That's not a realistic way to handle such tactics and it's certainly going to backfire.
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| August 11, 2006, 20:24 | |
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Rhovanion
Exterminated 666 posts |
it's a no-end quarrel. Israel claims to be the rightful owner because God promised the land to them. So they marched in and banned everyone. It's like a kid stealing a bike and saying "it's my bike now". They actually stole that land.
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| August 12, 2006, 00:20 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts
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Quoting Rhovanion: it's a no-end quarrel. Israel claims to be the rightful owner because God promised the land to them. So they marched in and banned everyone. It's like a kid stealing a bike and saying "it's my bike now". They actually stole that land. Let's not forget how American colonists got thier land now. ____________ laffo |
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| August 12, 2006, 00:28 | |
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TheMI3
Starving Artist 520 posts
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Quote: At the end of the day the only way for this thing to finish is frankly for Hezbollah to be crushed, because if Israel stopped fighting, do you think Hezbollah would stop thier hostilities? Hell no, it would probably drive them to ramp it up a little. Wrong. All Israel are essentially doing is filling Hisbollah's (how the fuck is that spelt?) ranks. The Libenese resent Israel more and more for every bomb that's fired. And now there's talk of a land invasion?! Terrorism is strange, because no state can ever wipe it out, as any action they make only further confirm's the terrorist's propoganda. Also, I call needlessly bombing 1000+civillians terrorism. Regardless of whoever pulled the trigger. I personnaly don't think there'll be an end soon. Unfortunately. ____________ This is my Blog. There are many like it, but this one is mine! (Now actual posts on it) http://www.chiefillustrator.com |
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| August 12, 2006, 00:35 | |
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Sandman
F3n!x0r 1194 posts
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Quoting Ferret: Quoting Rhovanion: it's a no-end quarrel. Israel claims to be the rightful owner because God promised the land to them. So they marched in and banned everyone. It's like a kid stealing a bike and saying "it's my bike now". They actually stole that land. Let's not forget how American colonists got thier land now.So because Americans did it, Israel is allowed? :/ Your point doesn't say anything. America has done very wrong things in the past and just as wrong things in the present; that can't ever justify Israel's misbehaviour. [Edited on August 12, 2006 by Sandman] ____________ BennuWiki Yes, my avatar has grey borders in IE (so get a decent browser) ROOFLEZ ROOFLEZ |
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| August 12, 2006, 03:38 | |
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Rhovanion
Exterminated 666 posts |
Quoting TheMI3: Wrong. All Israel are essentially doing is filling Hisbollah's (how the fuck is that spelt?) ranks. The Libenese resent Israel more and more for every bomb that's fired. And now there's talk of a land invasion?! Terrorism is strange, because no state can ever wipe it out, as any action they make only further confirm's the terrorist's propoganda. Also, I call needlessly bombing 1000+civillians terrorism. Regardless of whoever pulled the trigger. I personnaly don't think there'll be an end soon. Unfortunately. and it's spelled "Hezbollah", and pronounced "Hezbollaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh" ____________ |
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| August 18, 2006, 16:38 | |
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OScoder
None 1338 posts |
Quote: That's economic profit for the weapons selling And political profit for the help he sends. Don't forget the points he wins with some of the fundamentalists in the US! By helping Israel he effecitvely wins their support. Quote: So because Americans did it, Israel is allowed? :/ Your point doesn't say anything. America has done very wrong things in the past and just as wrong things in the present; that can't ever justify Israel's misbehaviour. But don't you forget, Israel had the land before the palestinians even. Its whole history goes back years - so it is possible to say that Israel is just reclaiming what rightfully belongs to it - that's some people's argument anyway. [Edited on August 18, 2006 by OScoder] ____________ om |
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| August 19, 2006, 02:16 | |
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Rhovanion
Exterminated 666 posts |
No, originally the palestines lived in Israel but the land was not fertile. Then the Israelians moved their because they thought the land was promised to them by God. And the Palestines agreed because the land was bad anyways. And Israel made the land fertile and valuable, and now the Palestines want it back.
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