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December 11, 2006, 02:04
Rincewind
programmer
1545 posts

<original post removed>

(Hi! I removed this post as it had my life goals in it, which in hindsight are better to keep a secret.)

[Edited on September 19, 2009 by Rincewind]
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December 11, 2006, 02:51
TheMI3
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You wrote a lot of interesting things that I've been thinking about myself for a while. And while I can't be arsed to actually retort a lot of your post, I thought this was the most interesting:
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And the trick is doing this without breaking myself or my consciousness, and without accidentily copying myself instead of transferring. There is a lot of work to be done, and I really ought to get starting.


That's what I always think about when I watch Red Dwarf and remember that Rimmer isn't actually Rimmer but a copy. It's lame.

I wrote too much already and it makes me feel a bit emo. But I don't really have a life goal, although I really want to get a book or graphic novel published.

that would rock.
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December 11, 2006, 13:53
DTM
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Well my life goal is to explore the universe. On a spaceship of my own!

As for death i'd like to believe that we are all just a soup of atoms. So we will still remain after we die. And so will the higher level consciousness which is the entire human race/earth. Glory to the many.

*goes to astronomy test saving text in notepad*
*returns*

Serenity is an amazing film.

So that is my life goal... achieving it, hmmm. I suppose i'll need a job at some point. But I don't think I could cope with working for someone else so it'd have to be self employed. Indie game developer? John Carmack went that route and now has armadillo aerospace! Does anyone have a brilliant game idea I can steal?
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December 11, 2006, 16:14
Dennis
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What will you become if you achieve all your goals, all your projects and stop being able to have dreams of what you can become, because you already have done everything? Would you not rather self-terminate after a while?

You must already know how I look at projects. I try and if it is not good enough I quit; or I get bored of it. Currently, I am looking forward to all the things I do. I got enough stress on my work, I don't wanna freak out in my free time as well. oh well it must be these dark long winter nights that makes you wondering...

Having a life work must be amazing though. I think J.K. Rowling will feel a great feeling of satisfaction if she finishes her last book in the Harry Potter series - which will come out near June 2007.

I am sometimes dreaming about being a project manager later, or being head at an office making all kinds of programs for clients... I recently saw MY project manager in his Chrystler Coupé. What an UGLY car that was! :lol:

Whatever you do, make tings as simple as possible, but not simpler!

What you need in these dark days is a good night sleep and see every sunrise as well as sunset (if the weather allows it). A shortage on vitamin D (gets generated by absorbing sunlight) makes your hypothalamus produce more elements that makes you feel depressed, and gone are the worries and you have all the energy to work again and make your dreams come true!... i think... :(

[Edited on December 11, 2006 by Dennis]
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December 12, 2006, 01:27
raverdave
Don't Give A F*CK
155 posts

shurrup bitch!!
for starters stop being f'cking selfish, we are simply animals,just coz we have a'civilised' approach to life, we are no different from any other animal, we have sex,reproduce(well those who arent gay weirdos do, them cunts are not gunna reproduce, they will simply die with a fucking wide anus... ), err..where was i..oh yes....eat,sleep,shit....the rest is merely an illusion to make you think that you are more than an animal, the reality is your just a fucking ape.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 by raverdave]
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December 12, 2006, 02:14
Moogle
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239 posts

Hm. I have long term goals I think, but not as practical as you might want them to be. In my view practical long term goals tend to change as time progresses, so you best keep them simple/general, worry about the exact plan later. Obviously I want to start my own huge company, make millions, invent a way to make coffee using your bare hands and a screwdriver and win an Oscar, but doesn't everyone want to achieve great things when they're still young and full of morale? Give me a young kid that says he wants to work for a large international company and wear a suit all day and I'll give you a dollar. For most people it's either that their goals change or they settle for something satisfying and within their reach.

That said, I think that what I might want to achieve once I get older is: Marry somewhere in my late 20's, have(at least one) kids before 30, 2 at least, 4 at most, and then get some job that gives me financial safety, but still is challenging and evolving. Then in the spare time I have left I would like to have some sort of project completely unrelated to work, which requires intelligence rather than time. Maybe get active in politics or start a small one man company with some hobby product. I might want an old English car(Triumph?) to work on and drive in in the weekends, but as cars keep evolving I'll probably be attracted to some new fancy car that'll come out then. Otherwise I'd like a house close to work, maybe in the Netherlands maybe in some warmer climate(though with the climate changing I might not have to move). My main goal will be to try and never have to really spend my last penny on food, stay financially healthy. In the end have some grandchildren and keep my health and the will to maintain some interesting hobbies and friends.

Of course I'm hoping for some sort of Lotto jackpot(which I don't play in, but who knows) or by other means the value of a million dollar on my account, but as long as that isn't happening I'd be more than glad to settle for what I said above.
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December 12, 2006, 11:43
Dennis
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I don't play Lottery either. I knew someone who won 20 000 eur once, and he was so happy, but he played 40 years on the lottery every time. He didn't got back the money he already spent on it. You can better save the amount of money you spend on lottery tickets on your bank saving account.
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December 12, 2006, 23:41
Moogle
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Thanks for that relevant response! ;-)
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December 13, 2006, 10:15
Dennis
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Thanks for your relevant comment too.
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December 15, 2006, 00:17
PB
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630 posts

Loose from the religion behind it, the books Proverbs and Ecclesiastes in the Bible (Spreuken en Prediker in Dutch) are verry interesting to read... There is a lot of wisdom in it. Even if you don't believe, it's written to teach young people wisdom, so you can learn from it anyway...

As for my goals in life:
- I want to serve God. I believe God has a plan for me, and I want to alow Him to fulfill that plan in my life...
- I want to be married to a woman who I can love my whole life and who will love me all her life.
- I'd love to have kids! Personally I'm thinking about 2 kids unless they are of the same gender then perhaps 3 kids... But of course this is something I want to discuss with my future wife...
- I'd love to have a Job that I'm good at and that gives me enough financial strenght to have a familly.

Basically I'm happy when I can love. And I can love God and I will love my wife. I have no experience with financial problems, so I'm quite blessed with that, but I don't think I need money or projects to make me happy. Money, comfort and ego don't make happy...

And obviously I believe life is more than just a phisical body that accidentally can think, move, eat, sleep etc. No discussion about it that life on Earth is temporary though... But I'll get to Heaven :yay:

(yeah I'm back and no I think just for this reply. Hope you found it worth it :P )
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December 15, 2006, 13:11
Dennis
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PB may sound like a religious freak to lots of people here but I think, despite my beliefs are minimal, his words contain certain wisdom. Atheists don't want to belive things that are not proven. But believing is not about proving, it is about connection, love, friendschip, all the things around it. The values are important. Who cares heaven exists or not, if your faith is strong enough it must exist (for that person) and you will eventually get there, in the end it does not even matter anymore if you get there or not because your faith will guide you rather than yourself.

Despite all that I do not believe, because I think too rational. On the other hand I am a naive person when it comes to trusting people.
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December 20, 2006, 02:36
Oyster
Creative Incontinence
129 posts

My life goals are... none :-(

Goals normally miss for me and bleh, lots of efffort


though i would like to get back into programming some time or something
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December 21, 2006, 21:24
raverdave
Don't Give A F*CK
155 posts

you know PB, a couple of flaws with your plan of ever lasting happiness...

One thing,its possible to have 3 or 4 kids in a row with the same gendre, i.e 4 girls, well even 6 in a row, in fact it just aint upto you! So you might be breeding like a rabbit.
Secondly I dont think you can love somebody the whole of your life,well if you both live that long tomake it pretty long time! You see we are all bought up in a fantasy, where things never die(like cartoon characters) where lovers never get fucking sick of each other(sleeping beauty)or saomething..They are all plainly ridiculous, I mean if only they showed the reality of it all,what happens AFTER!Yeh 2 people meet,they are in love (screw each other >once a week) but then kids......then....each others company every fuckin day,day in..day out, moaning...moaning about lack of money,about how this n that should be,about WTF does she do for the next 16 years with kids wrapped around her ass.... and blahblahblah, in the end you stay together basically so that your kids are happy, that you simply can 'tolerate' each other enough to not drive a knife into the others skull, and that you bought a fucking big rubber dildo to satisfy her even more than your cock that has been banning her for 60 fucking years... Of course 99% of em divorse, or drive a knife into a pretty major body part, or simply run away with a milkman..AND truthfuly it doesnt even take 60 years, you can knock a few years off that..its pretty variable...hell I wanted to kill my fucking woman after 6 months

[Edited on December 21, 2006 by raverdave]
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December 22, 2006, 17:50
PB
Defender of the faith
630 posts

Hmm, I thought I'd return...

Dennis, thanks for the compliment ("his words contain certain wisdom"). I am in fact a bit of a religious freak but to a healthy extend, and I'm aware of it :P.

RaverDave, I know that large families can exist out of the same gender (my father only has brothers, 4 of them even). I just mean that if my first 2 kids would have the same gender then I'd may try a 3rd time (4 would be a bit much I think). In fact I'm aware that it's not even in my hands if I'm able to have kids with my future wife. In this case that would be a big disapointment to me, but then I could always adopt children.

I never even had a girlfriend yet, but I´ve heared from different sources that it´s not possible to experience love more than 7 years in a row. But I do think it´s well possible to love someone for a lifetime, just not all the time in the way you loved her at first. When I fall in love with someone, I'll make sure she'll become my best friend too...

EDIT: From your post it seems that you're not quite happy with your wife. Maybe it would be an idea to, in stead of mocking about it, try to make something of it. Try to do some of the things you did when you just fell in love with your wife, try to remember why you loved your wife in the first place. Spend some time with her be romantic and leave the kids with some family or babysitter for the weekend...

[Edited on December 22, 2006 by PB]
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December 22, 2006, 18:37
yonni
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420 posts
Quoting raverdave:
Secondly I dont think you can love somebody the whole of your life,well if you both live that long tomake it pretty long time! You see we are all bought up in a fantasy, where things never die(like cartoon characters) where lovers never get fucking sick of each other(sleeping beauty)or saomething..They are all plainly ridiculous, I mean if only they showed the reality of it all,what happens AFTER!Yeh 2 people meet,they are in love (screw each other >once a week) but then kids......then....each others company every fuckin day,day in..day out, moaning...moaning about lack of money,about how this n that should be,about WTF does she do for the next 16 years with kids wrapped around her ass.... and blahblahblah, in the end you stay together basically so that your kids are happy, that you simply can 'tolerate' each other enough to not drive a knife into the others skull, and that you bought a fucking big rubber dildo to satisfy her even more than your cock that has been banning her for 60 fucking years... Of course 99% of em divorse, or drive a knife into a pretty major body part, or simply run away with a milkman..AND truthfuly it doesnt even take 60 years, you can knock a few years off that..its pretty variable...hell I wanted to kill my fucking woman after 6 months


Thats a majorly fucked up way of looking at things. The major thing here is sex, and sex is not neccessary for love, you seem to be kinda confused on what love actually is.
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December 22, 2006, 22:56
raverdave
Don't Give A F*CK
155 posts

yonni/pb....
The problem is here, you havent experienced anything yet,I am hearing the opinions of mere amatuers, and like anything else,amatuers are just that, come back to me in 10 or 20 years time and we shall re-access.......

If your saying that its majorly fucked up Yonni, well thats fucking reality....welcome bitch..now get the fuck away from your fantasy world..
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December 23, 2006, 00:05
yonni
None
420 posts
Quoting raverdave:
yonni/pb....
The problem is here, you havent experienced anything yet,I am hearing the opinions of mere amatuers, and like anything else,amatuers are just that, come back to me in 10 or 20 years time and we shall re-access.......

If your saying that its majorly fucked up Yonni, well thats fucking reality....welcome bitch..now get the fuck away from your fantasy world..


Calm down dude. I don't want a huge argument, I just want to say that that reply only makes me think that your view is even more screwed. Of course it's your view, so I'm gunna let you keep it, if you let me keep mine, and we'll see who is genuinely more happy in 10/20 years.
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December 24, 2006, 12:45
PB
Defender of the faith
630 posts

Yonni, I think you should try to look past te offensive language that RaverDave uses. What he is talking about is actually what breaks many mariages appart.

According to science it is so that you can't love someone for more than 7 years in a row. So this means that people often get married when they are still in love and then the love dies out when they are married. I don't think RaverDave is setting the focus at sex at all.

RaverDave, I feel sorry that you´re this disapointed in love now. It is true that I never even had a girlfriend, so I´m not that experienced. But I did hear some good preaches about how you should make mariage work. It sounded good to me.

The advise would be to try to fall in love again with your wife, like I posted as an edit in my previous post. Also a verry good advise is to try to be or become best friends with your wife... And as everybody knows (or should know), a mariage takes a lot of effort...

Anyway, I don't believe in divorce (unless you're really married to someone dangerous to you or your kids, of course). It's always best to try to make it work... Best for your kids, but also for your own happyness...
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December 24, 2006, 13:37
yonni
None
420 posts
Quoting PB:
According to science it is so that you can't love someone for more than 7 years in a row.


Science has "proved" many things. Like philosophy, religion, and politics I find it best to stay skeptical until you feel that you can make up your own mind, especially when it is something that's affecting emotions.
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December 24, 2006, 14:15
PB
Defender of the faith
630 posts

If it was something I fully believed, then I'd say "you can't love someone for more than 7 years in a row". That's why I said "according to science...".

Personally I still have hope to love my futurewife my whole married life. But still I think friendship is a good foundation of a love relationship, because friendship can always last a lifetime...
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