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| February 14, 2006, 23:03 | |
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OScoder
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http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6039076.html The UK government is now certainly forcing ID cards upon us in just a few years time. So what do people think of this - is it an infringement upon our rights or neccessary protection? ____________ om |
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| February 14, 2006, 23:08 | |
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Eckolin
Quite Whiskered 388 posts 
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Already obligatory in the Netherlands. I'm not for it. [Edited on February 14, 2006 by Eckolin] ____________ Maker of Games... Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Need help with coding? I probably wrote something similar. |
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| February 14, 2006, 23:17 | |
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Moogle
Enterprise Edition 239 posts 
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I am. It's not like you can be forced to identify yourself out of the blue. There needs to be a reasonable suspicion you broke something, mostly a law. Anyhow, the soup never gets eaten as hot as it is served, as we say in the Netherlands. ____________ I am Moogle and I approve this message. Quoting (. )( .) in the Bugs topic: Everytime I login the threads with new posts are by Dennis.
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| February 14, 2006, 23:20 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts 
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I don't like using any form of identification...
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| February 14, 2006, 23:40 | |
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Sandman
F3n!x0r 1194 posts 
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Now breaks my wooden shoe.
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| February 15, 2006, 12:28 | |
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Deadmaster
Where is Johnny? 458 posts |
Quoting Ferret: I don't like using any form of identification... Same here. If I get my way I'll move away from the UK, asap. If nesercery, I'll get out of the country illigally to prevent myself having to get one of these satanic high tech passports. [Edited on February 15, 2006 by Deadmaster] ____________ My site still needs updating and redesigning. My last.fm page. GO TO TEXTUAL ANARCHY II YOU FISHDOG YOU |
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| February 15, 2006, 14:09 | |
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Moogle
Enterprise Edition 239 posts
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Why not Ferret/Deadmaster?
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| February 15, 2006, 15:02 | |
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Caspah
Gladiator 203 posts |
"Vere are your paperz? wizout de paperz we consider you de enemy of de state, and you vill be executed vitdout warnink" - 'Zee Germans'
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| February 15, 2006, 17:14 | |
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DTM
Earthling! 821 posts 
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When the world is controlled by (evil) robots, you will need ID cards to be allowed to live. I'm against it. ____________ :o |
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| February 15, 2006, 20:25 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts 
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It is ridiculous to force people to always carry a certain piece of paper. That cannot be called freedom. I was born a free man and now I appear to be government property?  Next big thing is RFID implantation and storing the DNA of everyone - not just criminals - in a big database. People would have laughed about such ideas 10 years ago and now they seem pretty realistic to me. I have also noticed that our police forces are more and more concentrated on civilians, after all these cops need to make their 'fine quantum' (!). What's easier than patrolling nearby schools and screwing everyone with a bad light, and then also have a bonus fine of 50 euros for the kid forgetting his ID? No way they'd try to go after criminals, hell no, way to much hassle for a fine. When I cycle to school I see 3 different groups of police agents picking on scholers on my way, and they're there nearly every day of the week in the winter. Anyway I have not, and will not, carry my ID except when I need it to go abroad. [Edited on February 15, 2006 by Rincewind] ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| February 15, 2006, 20:28 | |
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Deadmaster
Where is Johnny? 458 posts |
I'm siding with Rincewind here. Almost the exact same reason.
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| February 15, 2006, 23:06 | |
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Eckolin
Quite Whiskered 388 posts
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Quote: When I cycle to school I see 3 different groups of police agents picking on scholers on my way, and they're there nearly every day of the week in the winter. Yeah, but you live in a relatively rich area. I hardly ever see cops... Not that that makes ID cards any better. I don't feel safer. ____________ Maker of Games... Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Need help with coding? I probably wrote something similar. |
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| February 15, 2006, 23:14 | |
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TheMI3
Starving Artist 520 posts 
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ID Cards are completely, and utterly, Big Brother. I find it worrying how no-one seems to notice how people are watched more and more by the government. Their argurment is that 'if you've done nothing wrong, then you have nothing to hide.' The only difference between us and the guys in prison is that they got caught. In America it's now legal for the US government to actually spy on your e-mail, phone calls etc. I don't want people watching me over my shoulder. ____________ This is my Blog. There are many like it, but this one is mine! (Now actual posts on it) http://www.chiefillustrator.com |
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| February 15, 2006, 23:29 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts
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And as if criminals are going to carry ID cards. 
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| February 16, 2006, 01:20 | |
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Eckolin
Quite Whiskered 388 posts
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Yeah, but then you can fine them during the random checks!
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| February 16, 2006, 15:55 | |
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Deadmaster
Where is Johnny? 458 posts |
Quoting TheMI3: ID Cards are completely, and utterly, Big Brother. I find it worrying how no-one seems to notice how people are watched more and more by the government. Their argurment is that 'if you've done nothing wrong, then you have nothing to hide.' The only difference between us and the guys in prison is that they got caught. In America it's now legal for the US government to actually spy on your e-mail, phone calls etc. I don't want people watching me over my shoulder. I find the only way I can stop myself from going depressed and insane over the idea of the government watching our every move is by sticking my head in the sand and pretending it isn't happening. Otherwise I'd be all, terrorist, running up the the house of parliment and throwing grenades and shooting guards and stuff. No, seriously, I would. I'd be locked up right now for breaking some sort of terrorism law. ____________ My site still needs updating and redesigning. My last.fm page. GO TO TEXTUAL ANARCHY II YOU FISHDOG YOU |
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| February 17, 2006, 04:05 | |
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TheMI3
Starving Artist 520 posts
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We need some left wing militants with lasers. Kind of like the Rebel Alliance but with grenades and Marx ____________ This is my Blog. There are many like it, but this one is mine! (Now actual posts on it) http://www.chiefillustrator.com |
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| February 17, 2006, 04:23 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts
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That would rock.
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| February 17, 2006, 11:47 | |
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PEader
お前はもう死んでいる 1486 posts 
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Eevrything rocks at 4am
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| February 17, 2006, 14:13 | |
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Deadmaster
Where is Johnny? 458 posts |
Yeah. If rebellions gonna happen, we need to do it properly. :p
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| February 24, 2006, 16:17 | |
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PB
Defender of the faith 630 posts 
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I supose it will get worse though. I think in the future people will use a chip as identification. The chip would carry an unique number that can also be used for payments. People have to carry them with them all the time, but shopping will get easyer now everything gets chared wireless and automatically. Of course no one would want this chip to be stolen, so eventually it would be desided to implant the chip into the human body (with todays technology the chip would already be small enough). I'm verry against this, and when such technologie would be forced uppon us, I would reject it. But that's also because the story above is a populair explenation to a prophecy in the bible for quite some time now (from before it was verry realistic even, I think). ____________ |
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| February 25, 2006, 03:03 | |
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TheMI3
Starving Artist 520 posts
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Has any one here seen Gattaca? Despite being an awesome (underrated) movie it did tackle the whole scenario of identification to the extreme. It also threw in a bunch of genetics issues, but nonetheless, presented to the audience a totalitarian society based on solid identification. Which is worthy of a sad face. 
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| February 25, 2006, 09:53 | |
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Woody
HEAD BLACK MAN 722 posts 
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Quoting TheMI3: Has any one here seen Gattaca? Despite being an awesome (underrated) movie it did tackle the whole scenario of identification to the extreme. It also threw in a bunch of genetics issues, but nonetheless, presented to the audience a totalitarian society based on solid identification. Which is worthy of a sad face. :( I saw it, but I thought it was pretty terrible and erased most of the content from my memory. ____________ boredome is the bitter fruit of too much routine |
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| February 26, 2006, 17:13 | |
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TheMI3
Starving Artist 520 posts
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Aw. I liked Gattaca. I thought it was quite good.
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| February 27, 2006, 18:11 | |
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Sandman
F3n!x0r 1194 posts
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Yes, Sandman liked Gattaca as well.
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