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| November 21, 2005, 20:22 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts 
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I've been saving money for some time, and I want to buy a good laptop. It's going to be the successor of my current desktop computer, and next to good specs the battery should last pretty long. I've been looking around on the internet, and for now these are the models that seem best to me for a price of (€ 1300 - 1700): Asus M6Va (centrino) € 1699,- : Pentium M 740 (1,73 Ghz, 533 Mhz FSB) 80 GB Harddisk 7200 RPM 2048 Mb DDR2 533 Mhz RAM (2x 1024) ATI Mobility Radeon X700 128 Mb VGA 15,1 SXGA+ Crystalshine TFT (1400x1050) (No glare) battery should last for: 4.5 - 5.5 hours Asus M6Va (centrino) € 1575,- : Pentium M 750 (1,86 Ghz, 533 Mhz FSB) 60 GB Harddisk 7200 RPM 1024 Mb DDR2 533 Mhz RAM (2 x 512) ATI Mobility Radeon X700 128 Mb VGA 15,1 SXGA+ Crystalshine TFT (1400x1050) (No glare) battery should last for: 4.5 - 5.5 hours Which one of these two would you prefer? And if anyone could help me look for good laptops in my price range, then that would very appreciated! There's so much on the laptop market that I'm getting a bit confused, especially since I can't easily assemble a laptop like a normal computer, I'll have to buy a specific model. I really hate widescreens and that makes it quite a bit harder. ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| November 22, 2005, 00:01 | |
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PB
Defender of the faith 630 posts 
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Have you tried Dell? It's just a bit below your budget, but you're able to costumise your laptop... Oh and if batery life is the priority, obviously the first is better. I don't think it would make that mutch of a diference though, those two laptops seem quite similar... ____________ |
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| November 22, 2005, 18:46 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts
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Dell just has one laptop with a 15.1 inch screen, being this one, which sadly isn't very good. I'm not too much of a fan of Dell, Compaq, HP and Packard Bell systems, though Dell still seems to be the best of them. Mostly because they sell bad parts (no brand, who knows where they come from) for an insane price. Quoting PB: Oh and if batery life is the priority, obviously the first is better. I don't think it would make that mutch of a diference though, those two laptops seem quite similar... Their battery lifes should be about equal. And yeah it's indeed the same model with different parts in it. Such a pity they've put a Pentium M 740 in the first model, instead a Pentium M 750 :P. Still I think I'd take the first one if I had to choose one out of these two. You can upgrade the second model to 2 gb of ram, but then it gets a lot more expensive. If one knows to find another laptop this nice, nicer or less pricey, then that would be very welcome! I fancy Asus and Fujitsu-Siemens laptops. 
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| November 23, 2005, 13:15 | |
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Sandman
F3n!x0r 1194 posts 
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What could you possibly do with 2 gigs of ram? :|
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| November 23, 2005, 15:02 | |
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Puniks
AKA Piglet, Skull, but always in reversing mode 58 posts 
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get this one...... Asus M6Va (centrino) € 1699,- : it seams to be the best. DONT GET A DELL, if you do you are heading for a dell lot of problems. ____________ people who find grammatical and spelling errors can keep them. http://www.dragonglow.co.uk |
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| November 23, 2005, 16:03 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts
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Quote: What could you possibly do with 2 gigs of ram? :| Run Vista?
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| November 23, 2005, 16:23 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts 
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I've never had any probs with Dell laptops, it's Sony you wanna stay away from. Compaq pwn them both though.
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| November 23, 2005, 17:15 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts
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Quote: it's Sony you wanna stay away from Innit. Alledgely the Sony Vaio laptops have very bad batteries. ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| November 23, 2005, 17:31 | |
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PEader
お前はもう死んでいる 1486 posts 
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Quoting Rincewind: Quote: What could you possibly do with 2 gigs of ram? :| Run Vista? :P How much ram does Vista require? ____________ I see 57,005 people. |
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| November 23, 2005, 17:51 | |
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PB
Defender of the faith 630 posts
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After a short search it seems that there aren't any official system requirements released yet. Some say though that 1Gb RAM is recomended for a 32 bit pc. (2Gb for a 64 bit pc)
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| November 23, 2005, 17:53 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts
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Quoting [url=http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/newsroom/winxp/VistaBeta1FS.mspx: Microsoft[/url]] Minimum system requirements will not be known until summer 2006 at the earliest. However, these guidelines provide useful estimates: • 512 megabytes (MB) or more of RAM • A dedicated graphics card with DirectX® 9.0 support • A modern, Intel Pentium- or AMD Athlon-based PC. So that seems to be a minimum of 512 MB, which is, well, pretty high. Windows XP has a minimum of 64 MB. 2 GB of RAM definitely won't hurt, especially since the computer will be my main computer for another 4 years. And Peter, you mentioned once in the chatroom that a lot of ram in a laptop can compensate for a slow HD. This HD isn't slow at all but I suppose it'll still be advantagous because the HD has to be accessed fewer times, which might save power. [Edited on November 23, 2005 by Rincewind] ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| November 23, 2005, 19:45 | |
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Woody
HEAD BLACK MAN 722 posts 
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Quoting Ferret: I've never had any probs with Dell laptops, it's Sony you wanna stay away from. Compaq pwn them both though. WHAT Dell is terrible, Sony is bad, and Compaq is the WORST. They fall apart if you sneeze on them. ____________ boredome is the bitter fruit of too much routine |
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| November 24, 2005, 02:32 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts
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I've used all three laptop wise, Compaq Presario was more than perfect (going on 5 years before I dropped it hahahaha), Sony Vaio was bollocks with a capital b (HDD crashed 3 times in one month before I got rid) and my Dell (which I'm typing on now) is alright, only a few minor problems but I can live. [Edited on November 24, 2005 by Fiona] ____________ laffo |
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| November 24, 2005, 11:20 | |
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Frimkron
Frustrated Megalomaniac 703 posts 
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I have an IBM thinkpad. I've had it for about... 4 years now I beleive. And it was second hand when I got it. I've had no problems at all. They're built to last - and you can have any colour as long as its black.
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| November 24, 2005, 18:40 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts
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Quoting Ferret: I've used all three laptop wise, Compaq Presario was more than perfect (going on 5 years before I dropped it hahahaha), Sony Vaio was bollocks with a capital b (HDD crashed 3 times in one month before I got rid) and my Dell (which I'm typing on now) is alright, only a few minor problems but I can live. Quoting Frimkron: I have an IBM thinkpad. I've had it for about... 4 years now I beleive. And it was second hand when I got it. I've had no problems at all. They're built to last - and you can have any colour as long as its black. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Lasting isn't a problem for most laptops luckily. But thinkpads definitely look russian, I'll have to give you that. ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| November 24, 2005, 22:13 | |
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Woody
HEAD BLACK MAN 722 posts
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When I was fixing computers at college, I kept track of the manufacturers on each computer that had bad hardware problems. Without further ado, I give you... the bottom 5: 1. Dell (yes, they're statistically worse than E-Machines) 2. E-Machines 3. Toshiba 4. Sony 5. Compaq/HP My recommendation is to STAY FAR FAR AWAY from these. ____________ boredome is the bitter fruit of too much routine |
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| November 24, 2005, 22:22 | |
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PB
Defender of the faith 630 posts
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But which of them are most populair? If most people buy a Dell computer, obviously most problems will come from Dell computers.
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| November 24, 2005, 22:27 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts
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That's a useful list.  I never heard of E-Machines though. And I can tell out of my own experience that Toshiba indeed isn't very good - the Toshiba laptop downstairs has 1 dead pixel, 1 lazy pixel and seems to have a broken battery.And PB, good point. These brands are populair with the common people, that's true. They might be bad because they were meant for mass production and to be distributed among the people without any computer knowledge. ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| November 24, 2005, 22:54 | |
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Woody
HEAD BLACK MAN 722 posts
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I took into account the total number of computers I saw for any reason, such as software which isn't the manufacturer's problem.
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| November 25, 2005, 13:25 | |
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Moogle
Enterprise Edition 239 posts 
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While it is widely known that laptops are the BOOM, if you are going to study here I can advise you NOT to get one. Taking it to college will only distract you and for home use a desktop will of course be much more fun. Plus it will save you like a million bucks. Oh and one other thing, next year, if you come to Twente, you can buy at the *special* INF shop here. I don't know their prices on laptops but it might just be something. If you really got to choose between those two you listed, the first one would surely be worth the difference in pricing. Oh my, my first  [Edited on November 25, 2005 by Moogle] ____________ I am Moogle and I approve this message. Quoting (. )( .) in the Bugs topic: Everytime I login the threads with new posts are by Dennis.
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| November 25, 2005, 14:40 | |
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TheMI3
Starving Artist 520 posts 
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http://store.apple.com/Apple/W … mp;mco=C52E92F8 The best (and probably second most expensive) laptops on the market. I got mine for about £500 off ebay. Totally worth it. Unless you want to play games, in which case your totally fucked. ____________ This is my Blog. There are many like it, but this one is mine! (Now actual posts on it) http://www.chiefillustrator.com |
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| November 25, 2005, 16:17 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts
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Quoting Moogle: While it is widely known that laptops are the BOOM, if you are going to study here I can advise you NOT to get one. Taking it to college will only distract you and for home use a desktop will of course be much more fun. Plus it will save you like a million bucks. Hey Moogle, good to see you at Boolean Soup. I'm not buying a laptop particularly for a study, but just to be mobile. Mobility would help me a lot. I am getting sick of always being in my room when computing, especially taking into account the time I spend on it. With a laptop I can enjoy the sun without wasting my time. Also, I want to be able to access my own (coding) environment anywhere. At school we have a hobby computer club, and next to having fun there is time to code, but unless I would bother moving files and reinstalling all (illegal) software I need on a school-pc every time again, it'd be much easier just to move it all with me. Don't worry, I'm not going to hang around being the village fool having my laptop on the desk during lessons, colleges, whatever. It's only for spare time use. I'll be a mobile professional, mark my words. Quoting Moogle: Oh and one other thing, next year, if you come to Twente, you can buy at the *special* INF shop here. I don't know their prices on laptops but it might just be something. Yeah I saw the shop last saturday. Their laptops are expensive though (prices can be found on their website). Quoting Moogle: If you really got to choose between those two you listed, the first one would surely be worth the difference in pricing. These are the best I've found for such a price... Quoting Themi3: Totally worth it. Unless you want to play games No no no you don't get it, I want to *use* the laptop. [Edited on November 25, 2005 by Rincewind] ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| November 25, 2005, 20:58 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts
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I know what you mean about mobility, since I got the wireless network set up I've hardly been on my desktop PC's.
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| December 10, 2005, 21:40 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts
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Does a single wireless router cover your whole house house or are using accesspoints/repeaters? I'm a bit worried if a wireless router can overcome 2 floors.
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| December 11, 2005, 06:26 | |
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Woody
HEAD BLACK MAN 722 posts
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Quoting Rincewind: Does a single wireless router cover your whole house house or are using accesspoints/repeaters? I'm a bit worried if a wireless router can overcome 2 floors. It should, yes. If you lived in a Cube you might have some problems, but router signals can travel through floors/walls pretty easily. ____________ boredome is the bitter fruit of too much routine |
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