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November 3, 2009, 22:47
PB
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Well if you have sex outside of mariage, I'd certainly advice to use condoms, just to be clear on that.

It's just that I'm still a virgin, so there wasn't mutch point to using condoms for me anyway.

Though in my opinion that's too mutch information.
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November 4, 2009, 15:41
Ariel Yust
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you don't know who maintaned order in ur future partner's garage you know what I'm saying? =]

any way you don't want to be a daddy on ur first go ;)
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November 7, 2009, 15:56
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what do you think about this?
Well, if you want to know - Palestine is a land of immense poverty, mostly caused by the Israeli occupation (for instance by the wall cutting off land and water supplies, checkpoints and trenches preventing movement, etc). If every Palestinian was firing rockets, then maybe this would be fair. But that's not the case, is it? The Israeli army has also done far worse things to the Palistinean people than the terrorists have done to the Israeli people. I remember when my cousin died, how my aunty and uncle where at the funeral, and I can't see how its ever right to kill a child, even if that child's country is hurting yours.

The thing is though - that's just your government, and I won't taint you with the same brush, unless you want me to.

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and didn't live throught a war or any battle in his life, never his life was in danger or anything so he had to take a gun and protect him self and stuff.

Well, I have to say that's fair. It's not right for us in the comfortable west to judge, when so much of what we do creates massive injustice in the world (I'm sure as hell not blamless there!). If I had been brought up in your country, taught in your schools (I'm the first to admit that my history lessons were biased, so I doubt yours were objective either), and watched your media, then I would fight, just like you. I've been threatend with a gun before, and all I could think of afterwards was wishing I could have hurt the bastards. But, there IS another way - there isn't just the choice between being an oppressor or a victim. I believe we can resist without violence, espescially without killing. If you don't agree then fine - but you have to ask, is what your army's doing resistance, or out and out repression?

Another question - although we've never lived through a war, and so can't know what you're going through is like, have you ever been poor, or on the loosing side? If not, how can you know what it's like to be a Palestinian? And, if you can't know that, how can you decide that it's right to fight and hurt them?

I don't think you're really to blame for anything you've done - it's what you were taught, what everyone told you is right. Sorry if what I'm saying is a bit intense - but I think it's great that you're asking the question, and I wanted to give you an honest answer. It's horrible when we start to question the things we have around us, and start to realise it's maybe more sinister than we thought.

Maybe someday we'll fix the crappy world about us!
Tim

[Edited on November 7, 2009 by OScoder]
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November 12, 2009, 18:46
Ariel Yust
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291 posts

Tim thanks for the serious comment

Its still amuse me how people in the west belive that our schools or our media teaches us to be againts arabs, well I wish that is the case, our media is on the left side of politics, I was never taught at school to hate and my history lessons were about ww2 and about the british mandat over israel and the wars after that, the word Palastiniens was not pronounce even and nothing good nor bad was said about them, we lived in peace togever, and I can even remember how they walked near my home many times working in construction, I was never rich... infact my parents and I arrived to Israel from USSR with no money and not even a simple knowleg of the native Language, we were poor but because my parents are not foolish they managed to prosper and there for I do not need to put my cloths inside a carton box anymore because now I have wooden shalves and closent, I have my own awsome room and we live in a decent modern middle class way =] so I know what poverty is I was eating on the floor as a child and I didn't have many toys I made toys by my self from electric phone wires =]

I started to hate our enemys when they started to murder and steal from innocent people, because they are the majority in the country, and racism was there way of hate, then as a kid I have first witness an attack I was less then 5 yrs old I belive and already rockets started falling on my town from Iraq, I can remember well how I was sitting in my room with a gas mask planty of times and I have pics even, then buses started to explode, I was terrified to go on a bus, and barly could my mom make me get on one... I prepared to be walking hours instead, and when I got on a bus I was worst then a guard in an airport I was inspecting everyone and everything!

building a wall around gaza in the end turned to be a very good decision, when it was first build the amount of buses that exploded droped by 99% and finaly we had peace around here, apperently no one of our neighboors wanted to accept the palastines to there countrys because they dislike them and the only country that did accept them (saudia I belive) got betrayed by them and they kicked them out of the country.

if you where a soldier in the IDF you would know exectly why all the news that are showen on TV are a pure bluff =]
they like to make storys of it all, what does happen is that soldiers are not allowed to do anything! arabs moke them and tease them and try to do anything to catch them being wronge on camera so they could publish it in the west - the only place who gives a fuck about those pictures.

I have no idea why should they give a fuck about them anyway... its the palastines choice to live the way they live right now, if they watned a country they would have built one long long time ago... and even now they could have had a country... there were no war with them... if they were, belive me they would all have been killed and we wouldn't have this problem...

when yaser arafat was alive he told them that the greatest weapon againts Israel is the women vagina =] that they should bring as many kids as possible... and today u have something like 2 million people in that small city and the one who must feed them and give them electricity water medicine and everything else is Israel...

instead of wasting money on weapons it would be wiser to build economy and good non racist education and create a country because Israel will never let palastines live on its lands ever again.
they have mistaken for too many times (intifada 1-2 + terror activitys), life ain't fair and people who choose stupidity or being too passive suffer.

I do not say that killing kids is acceptble, I do belive that if u are willing to send ur kids to be suiciders and u choose to support terrorism in ur country and u support that a country that exists more then 60 yrs isn't realy there then you should and you most likley would suffer from ur stupidity and passive suffer would be apon u... (no u personaly)

if they wanted to live in peace - peace would have been achieved many years ago... Israeli people grew tierd of the politic talks, they know that the palastines wouldn't accept nothing while Iran,Syria and lebanon pay the palastines to hate.

the day those countrys wouldn't have resources to support this hate u will see a great change in the middle east =] peace will happen u may not belive me lets hope we will see this day, because I do not want to send my kids to the army - I don't want them to see wars and expirience all the bad stuff I expirienced.
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November 30, 2009, 16:04
Dennis
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There is no "wrong" in a war. They are just different point of views. That's why you need warriors probably, because some people are simply too stubborn to talk to. It's in our nature to fight for what we claim to be ours. And if someone else claims it to be theirs as well a fight starts. It's not about who is the real owner, or the real rightful claimer. It's just about who pulls the trigger first... He wins. It doesn't matter who is wrong. The loser dies, the winner lives, and maybe throws up at night if he's not used to taking lives.

Don't blame the West for being pussies. They are not used to voilence and wars. They live far away from all conflicts in their cosy homes.

That's just how it is.
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November 30, 2009, 18:05
Ariel Yust
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Sorry Dennis but this is quite funny to read that the west is not used to violence and wars =]

as far as I know and perhaps I'm wronge but all the greatest wars and any wordwide conflicts, conquests and what's not some how came from the west...

all the world wars... all the greatest empires...even the conquest of america started at the west also... so who's here the blood thirsty person now? =]

the west destroyed more lives in the middle east then the lives that where lost during any middle eastern conflicts ever in human history.


for some reason all of us are educated on the conclusions of the last world war, as if if that war didn't happend in our past simple things like human rights and dignity weren't takedn seriously at all.

now if someone does anything that was considered patriotic or politicaly correct or a neccery step to protect the people in the country, then today millions will literaly execute that goverment for war crimes and racist hate even if there is no actual crime in there actions or any plan to exterminate a whole nation or winning anything but quite from them.

the world is very racist and people love thinking that they are so better then all the rest, saying how educated they are, how polite and gentle they are, how they love peace and harmony, how they vote for democracy, how they are against wars and war crimes... but in fact those people actually support directly war crimes everywhere without even thinking about it.

they use the same oil that there goverments pay with blood, they treat there own kind as shit at work or in the streets trying to win more panys with lies, they vote for the same goverment that is responsible to countless murders and unfair lost of human lives! they let them self judge people who must fight againts racist scum and call them names and lower there dignity, telling them that they are terrorists because some moron who gets paid to publish a false story in his country said lies in order to sell his scoop.

you think your safe from those disicions by saying that your not supporting them and that no one is fault, I say its realy easy to live with those thoughts.

I don't have the answers for the world I'm still younge to solve them, the world ain't a civillized place, its cruel under its all nice pink skirt and in order to survive you have to do what you must and being a warrior is the only way, being a warrior is to act like one in order to survive I don't mean u must kill people, I'm saying you need to act like a warrior in ur studies in work in love in every espect of your life and never give up no matter what!.

create warriors groups and go to victory survive life and life great lifes, try to do what humans could never done... get along with each other.
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December 1, 2009, 12:50
Dennis
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Sorry, I meant the people that live today in the West don't have real experience with wars (except people who are now 70 or something). They have a big mouth, but when it comes to it they'll hide away in their home.
I don't think it's my fault what my great grandfather did or didn't do in WW2. Hell, I don't even know what he did.
I just want my payment, when I zap the news I see war in Iraq, Pakistan, Whateverland, and when I zap away to the video channel I play Call of Duty. Hell... it's just something you hear and forget 5 minutes later here.

That's what I mean.

[Edited on December 1, 2009 by Dennis]
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December 4, 2009, 03:35
Ariel Yust
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well I do know what you mean now and I agree with you... I'm just like that =] I don't care about politics I want to live my life and also play call of duty on coop with friends lol

and don't think about wars and crysis and all that stuff... thought I know that by ignoring the problems that won't make them disapear in reality... that a shame... and sometimes we need to do what we do so we can keep living the lives we so want to live - "without problems".

I do not blame you dennis for the past =] I blame the modern stupid people who talk bullshit and piss everyone off, and I blame bullshit and the bullshit that was said about me, and I blame microsoft for making vista and I blame my self for F buying it >_< oh boy... nothing works on this thing.
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December 8, 2009, 12:04
Dennis
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People claim Windows 7 to be better than Vista. It's a stable version like XP again. Vista was a bit like Windows Millenium. Not worth getting.

speaking of COD. I often see people online playing Modern Warfare 2 but I think that game really sucked. I finished the campaign in one afternoon. And the multiplayers it's all the same as ever. :/
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December 8, 2009, 12:38
Zosma
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Isn't it great that even a war/political topic results in comparing Windows versions.

You gotta love geeks!

And maybe PEader
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December 9, 2009, 15:35
Ariel Yust
Bloodcoughted Yozik
291 posts

Agree,


CoD 6 is great I'm playing with my wing man in the coop and its soooo much fun! :D

we talk on skype and play it and I don't mind that the game is short because its fun anyways and you can waste all ur day playing this game on veteran which I allways do =] :thumbs:

by all espects this game is better then the previouse once, thought I'm sure that if the campaign was longer more people would have enjoyed this game =] but then again thats a realy good game mate =]
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December 10, 2009, 11:00
Dennis
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I play it on easy and die all over the place.

In multiplayer I don't even live for 5 seconds.

Maybe that's why I don't like it.

And I have no one to play co-op for me.

And I canceled my xbox live gold membership :cry:
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December 11, 2009, 14:07
Ariel Yust
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I'd play coop with u dennis if u want =] I'm an animal in this game... I rape eberything alone on veteran :lol:

must say if u play from the start on veteran then the game is quit long :thumbs:
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December 14, 2009, 11:49
Dennis
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Quoting Ariel Yust:
I'd play coop with u dennis if u want =] I'm an animal in this game... I rape eberything alone on veteran :lol:

must say if u play from the start on veteran then the game is quit long :thumbs:

And frustrating probably? :)
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December 17, 2009, 14:04
Dennis
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Also, the on-topic discussion belongs here I guess :P
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December 18, 2009, 00:36
Ariel Yust
Bloodcoughted Yozik
291 posts

Take off this blasphemy from my topic man! :O you can't talk with muslim fanatics they are totaly brain washed
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December 25, 2009, 08:30
raverdave
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You can paint it any colour you want... killing another human being..is simpy that..whatever the reason.. blood will be on your hands... As far as I am concerned, and if it exists, in your case you had better hope it doesnt.. then heaven will be your judgement..
I bet the army fucking love COD.. what an invention eh..makes ya wanna go out and do it for real eh..fuck me i got 50 frags today..yay.. hah.. It is laughable
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December 25, 2009, 08:30
raverdave
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Oh yeh... and merry xmas ;)
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December 25, 2009, 17:55
Mezzmer
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KILLING IN THE NAME OF...
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December 26, 2009, 16:40
Dennis
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I can play that on guitar (except the solo)
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December 26, 2009, 20:01
Mezzmer
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I think it's played on a pitch/fx pedal set to 5ths and octaves?

Anyway it's an awesome song.
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December 29, 2009, 20:35
Dennis
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Something like that, the solo that is. I don't have a pitch effect on my pedal. :(
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April 11, 2010, 06:35
Mezzmer
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At least we brought peace to the thread

JOY
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