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October 17, 2005, 13:07
Rincewind
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After the old westwood online died it seemed kind of impossible to me to play Red Alert 1 online. This was even more impossible because the patch that made RA1 work under Windows XP removed the network possibilities. Luckily an experimental patch could be downloaded, the 3.03 patch, which returned the network options. Anyway, online play still was impossible.

But not so long ago Frim told me he was going to play a game of RA1 with Ferret over the internet. O_O So uh, this is the deal, after installing Red Alert(and tick the 3.03 patch box) you should install Gamespy Arcade which enables you to play red alert online, amazing.

I beat Woody yesterday, who's next? :aharr:
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October 17, 2005, 13:14
Frimkron
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And anyone who can help us work around the old "only-the-player-behind-a-NAT-can-host-meaning-2-NAT-players-can't -play-in-the-same-game" problem gets a cookie.
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October 17, 2005, 13:28
Rincewind
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I was behind a NAT too a while ago, I asked my ISP to change the connection to Routed Subnet (then everyone in the home network gets his own IP, and all ports are being forwarded to the right IP by your router).

So where's my cookie? :P



Edit: And I declare war on you, Frimkron!

[Edited on October 17, 2005 by Rincewind]
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October 17, 2005, 16:39
Sandman
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Maybe forwarding all the ports to your IP (or enabling DMZ) does the trick. Anyhow, I'm gonna practise some games vs CPU first, since this is a while ago and to get to know the units etc again.

My empire will rise! :aharr:
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October 17, 2005, 19:40
Rincewind
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Quoting Sandman:
My empire will rise! :aharr:


And fall.
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October 17, 2005, 20:21
Sandman
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Quoting Rincewind:
And fall.


I expected that answer. ;)
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October 17, 2005, 23:39
Rincewind
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And you have fallen.

I expected that.
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October 17, 2005, 23:44
Sandman
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I'll get you next time Gadg...Rincewind! Next time! :P
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November 3, 2005, 02:42
DARKGuy
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"And anyone who can help us work around the old "only-the-player-behind-a-NAT-can-host-meaning-2-NAT-players-can't -play-in-the-same-game" problem gets a cookie." <- what if the ISP doesn't wants to do that or you don't have access to the router? (like me)
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November 3, 2005, 18:34
Sandman
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And you are still drawing breath?
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November 3, 2005, 21:46
DARKGuy
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I use a shared internet connection :P (which is cheaper, I pay the 1/8 part of the whole internet plan ^^ and is legal here :P)
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November 7, 2005, 22:32
Rincewind
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I just attempted to play a game against Ecko but we can't see each other in the lobby. It's very strange especially because I've been able to play before, and ecko has all his firewalls off, there's only a hub between him and the internet.

:(

Anybody? You'll get a cookie!
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November 7, 2005, 23:44
Frimkron
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Erm... yeah that would be the same problem, wouldn't it. Try letting Ecko host the game.
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November 8, 2005, 09:16
Rincewind
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How could that be the same problem? With the NAT-NAT thing at least people can see each other in the lobby of RA(or after they've created a game). Here we can't even do that. And we both don't have a NAT.

Ecko has tried to host the game in both gamespy arcade and Red Alert but we're just invisible to each other ingame.
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December 30, 2005, 23:21
OScoder
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dude, I will have to try this...

btw, in RA2 there is often a weird problem where certain machines had to host the game (mainly laptops running WINDOWS XP (how much we all hate it)).
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December 31, 2005, 00:37
Fiona
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I can't get RA2 working over my LAN for the life of me. It uses this ancient crap.
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December 31, 2005, 13:10
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If you are on windows XP:
start>settings>network conections>[your lan card]

then go to properties

then the install butoon. From here install the IPX protocol (and perhaps SPX, if it's there). In fact, sometimes it helps just to install everything from here, just incase.

With this installed it should work, though I recall having to fiddle with the network settings a bit inside the options menu.

It's a shame they didn't explain it atall in the manual...

[Edited on December 31, 2005 by OScoder]
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December 31, 2005, 17:43
Frimkron
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Well in win98 IPX used to be set up properly by default. In XP it isn't, of course. This is why games these days aren't bothering to support anything other than TCP/IP
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December 31, 2005, 18:13
Rincewind
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I'm pretty sure Ferret would've thought of having the right protocols installed.

Oh, and about Red Alert 1 and the NAT problems - we could try to use Hamachi sometime. I haven't tried it myself yet but a friend of mine says it's great. It's a program that emulates a private network (and in the how it works section it says that it can deal with firewalls and routers).
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January 1, 2006, 01:24
Fiona
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Quote:
'm pretty sure Ferret would've thought of having the right protocols installed.


It's the first thing I did Rince.
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January 1, 2006, 04:02
Frimkron
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Quoting Rincewind:
Oh, and about Red Alert 1 and the NAT problems - we could try to use Hamachi sometime. I haven't tried it myself yet but a friend of mine says it's great. It's a program that emulates a private network (and in the how it works section it says that it can deal with firewalls and routers).


I think Gamespy does the same thing anyway.
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January 1, 2006, 12:55
Rincewind
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Uhuh but gamespy has a loooooooot of issues (the whole NAT thing :what: and more), so at least we could try if this is an improvement.

[Edited on January 1, 2006 by Rincewind]
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January 1, 2006, 15:02
Fiona
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Not to mention overall instability, pretty sluggish software, shitty interface, ads up the wazoo and the awful sound effects.
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January 1, 2006, 17:59
Frimkron
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Well yes I was kind of tired of taking ads up the wazoo.
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January 1, 2006, 21:27
Sandman
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But I believe Windows has this VPN stuff? Maybe not Win98 though. A friend and I used VPN to play HL2DM, but it didn't give any advantages (we had awesome lag when playing normally :(, but hell he's got Chello Starter I think).
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